Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

Ganapatipule, India
5 January 1988 

From yesterday’s program and all these days we must have realized that to get your Kundalini working out, to get Her rush towards the Sahasrara and to widen your Shushumna Nadi it is not necessary that you should sit for meditation for 3 to 5 hours. Of course, you must meditate for a short time because that is at a point where you are alone one with your God. But otherwise in the collective when you emerge into it then the Kundalini rises the same way. It’s a very discrete way of understanding what happens. In the collective when you are, you compensate each other, compliment each other and the subtler side of the cosmos starts manifesting in you. Then if you could really emerge there is a word ’emerge’ in Sanskrit language or in Marati language is very good is [Ramamana?]. I don’t think emerging with joy but there is no ‘with’ you see, emerging into joy. So if you can emerge into the joy of anything that is Sahaj you can become a meditative personality. You can achieve that meditative mood within yourself. With that mood, with that force, new subtler dimensions start breaking out within you. Your different kind of conditionings, which are like, shackles binding you down, just open out and you become a free person – ‘Bandhamukta’. With that force everything breaks, your ego breaks, your conditioning breaks and you become one with the joy of life, divine life.

This you can experience but to retain it within yourself is only possible if you do your practices in Sahaja Yoga. To control your attention, to keep your attention to higher values, to the higher things. Let us see what are we, low value system that we get into which is regarded as something very important otherwise. The first in the modern times is the consciousness of time. What is the time now? What time we have to reach? Oh God what is the time we are going to start it? What time are we going to sleep? Now we have experienced that yesterday we went home about 6 o’clock and slept at 6 if we slept at all. You were quite tired till 2 o’clock I think then that Mumbai business started and you again relived the whole sequence with a greater gust I must say. So at that time those people who try to keep dignity and try to keep out of it are still keeping down their conditionings. Supposing there is a man who is a governor, for example, quite healthy, young can dance. I mean old people need not do all that but at least they can break through very well into the barriers of conditionings. But such a person start thinking what’s this going on and oh, nonsense, how can I join this? It looks very rustic, sometimes looks something not very decent, decorous, looks like a world’s mud. It’s extremely natural and child like, innocent. You can make out the people who are still in the barrier. They even find it difficult to say Jai Mataji! Such people are still bound down by the shackles of the worldly life.

Then they are all the time, seeing the time, what is the time? And again getting a headache and such time you should never see the time. Because you will get a headache if you see it, realizing it’s very late you see, and oh God, it’s 4 o’clock we are still here. So it is important for all of us not to have any watches, even if we have, not to see them. Or even you see them they should be stopped. So you go beyond time. You go beyond time. You don’t feel the time. You don’t feel the tiredness of time and you just forget yourself, which is tied down by time all the time.

Now then the second one is we talk so much. Oh we should have no religions, no jati, no [party?], like that we say, all of us, you should have no caste system, the Indians especially. The caste system is the curse. People will talk like that and when it comes to their daughters’ wedding they will not go beyond their caste. Caste system is bad. Your religion is bad, this is bad, that bad but when it comes to actual understanding of religion, you can easily scratch them and find out from where they come. Once all conditionings of so called religions and this has to be broken completely because they are all false, based on something solid. Supposing you have a very solid foundation on that you put up a house of, say pack of cards, like they say, how long it is going to last? If you go to the foundations you find all the foundations are just the same but these pack of cards are different and they are the greatest delusions for human beings which I’ve seen everyday, in every religion, in every country, in every caste but still we are frightened of something nonsensical, something historical or I don’t know what? We don’t want to give up that. That shows another very big binding force to very low-grade life. I mean, say two caste people meet, same people, how will they talk? Oh so you are of the same caste you see. Then you must be knowing this man, yes, yes, yes, my father’s brother’s, this thing, this thing in Marati this thing called [Sat ka. Sat lakia Sat ka?]

(Shri Mataji is talking in Marati)

like that. Oh, so you are the cousin sister’s, this thing that thing, real husband?

And such terrible talks. I don’t know, they go on for hours together and then I don’t know what is the satisfaction out of it. Then ultimately they this this they they find out sometimes or mostly that both of them are related to a [decoit? decoy?] or a thug or some sort of a bankrupt or some sort of a horrible man and then they recede back. Then they don’t want to show any relationship. So this kind of a nonsensical talks, for example, if the ladies meet oh, they will say, where did you buy this Sari? I bought it there. Oh, I went there how much you pay it? She said this, such waste of time, goes on, on, on, on and on. The whole life is wasted in such a low-grade understanding of life’s swell. Then they will also talk these and do this and I mean you can build upon that, all the filth. It’s something like the fungus growing from the dead with little heat the fungus starts growing, mutation takes place and the fungus becomes an aggressive and can become cancerous, this that and the same way all these low grade life starts.

Then this low-grade life can extend in every walk of life, like politics, economics, everywhere, because it is like plastic. Plastic can get into cloth, can get into trees, can get into everything. In the same way this horrible low-grade business goes into these various things and a person can not rise above this built in plastic bondages we have. At this time when we have such kind of programs everything breaks off and you really dissolve into the love of God. There are so many other mundane things if you see how people talk and how they joke and all that. You think its all filth going around you, slowly, you will gradually recede from it. That is how you prepare yourself for retaining this joy within yourself.

Now we are coming at the [fag?] end of our tours and when you will be going to your countries, you should see for yourself what’s happening around and just laugh and get out of it. You have to remember those beautiful days in Ganapatipulle and you have to get into that mood and know that you belong to the kingdom of God. I know we had very little time to talk but music was even better. I could communicate better through music to you. I am working on you all the time. But still there are some people who are caught up. I will request you for all the leaders who find out there are any caught up people in their groups. Please don’t call them for the Pujas. They should be kept back if you think they are not all right. And they should not also feel bad because they will be helped, they will be helped much more if they don’t come to the Puja.

So tomorrow is a great day for our Puja. I hope it will be convenient for all of you to come and be seated here. I think tomorrow before coming to the Puja don’t talk too much and don’t discuss too much. I think you must have had enough discussions today and have reached some conclusions. I would like to know if some questions were not answered. If there is any I would like to answer them now and after that we start our program for 5 minutes is sufficient for answering, all answered? Is there any questions that was not answered? Please stand up, I can’t see. Is there anybody? Oh, ho, that’s Sahaj. Sahaj people have no questions. They have to only answer.