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Ãëàâíàÿ arrow In English arrow Public arrow Kartikeya puja - 1986
Kartikeya puja — 1986 |  Print    version  |

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi  

Munich, Germany
13 July 1986  

I’m sorry for being late. I did not know that this program is in a beautiful place like this. And here you see a beautiful painting of Michelangelo expressing the desire of the Divine, your Father, to save you, to help you out and its working out.

In Germany we have had very great aggressive happenings. And that brought forth a devastating effect on the Western Life, all over. The value systems were broken, the idea of Dharma was disturbed, women started behaving like men and so many people died. Very young people died, very, very young. All their desires were not fulfilled, all their life gave them nothing but war. That was a kind of a heatwave that came, destroying all the subtler things. When the nature gets its respite, or is angry, it destroys only gross things but when human beings start destroying they destroy even the subtler things like your value system, your character, your chastity, your innocence, your forbearance.

So now the war is on on the subtler level. We have to now understand that all these things have brought such a shattering effect in the West, on the Western personality. So the first effort one has to do is to repair it, to put it straight, make it stand on its own legs. Because people lost their personality, their tradition, they had no moorings, no roots. And they started moving towards anything that was brought in as some sort of a intellectual experience. The women became very independent and they thought they can work out their own problems – that they thought they can become like men. Here the problem started even in a worse way. Because woman is a woman – and a very little thing which is called as a man in her and when she tries to avoid what she has and develop something that she has very little, then she becomes funny. But she may be possessed by so many men who are dead. The desire to become manly can attract so many bhoots who want to enter into woman’s mind. And when they enter they have the garb of a woman and mind of a devil. And the women cannot see it because maybe with those devilish things in the worldly way they might be successful. They might be better off. Maybe they can dominate everyone, they might become meticulous like men, absolutely matter of fact, very neat, tidy, clean, devoid of all beauty and sweetness. Then these women ultimately become like vampires. So though the war is over it is working through the women of Germany, I think.

I’d heard this attack had come before also and there were women called as ‘Amazonic’. Now that history is repeating itself again. The other day I had an interview with a German lady and I was amazed at her attitude because I felt she’s still a Nazi in her, some Nazi bhoot is sitting in her. She was a double personality, one way she was talking sweetly, another way she was a Nazi – and a Fascist. Very cunningly they have got arguments. The first thing they can do is to say that, ‛We are siding with downtrodden people, like India. Indians are Aryans, we are Aryans, and we are people who are sympathizing with the Aryans.“ Indians are spiritual people and they feel they are like Indians, of all the things, you know, can you believe it?

The quality of life should improve, is the point. The quality of men is different from that of women, I have told you many a times. And if women try to be manly then they cannot achieve anything proper. We have had many like this. You have seen Mao’s wife. You have seen Mrs. Chiang Kai Shek. Now this new lady Carlos – Carlos her name is? Marcos, Marcos. So many women like this. They always make a mess of things when they try to be manly.

In the history we have many women. In India women are very well equipped, we have had women like Jhansi ki Rani who fought against the British. She was a widow. She tied her child on her back and fought the British. They say that her horse jumped from 180 feet from the turret of a fort and the Britishers have written down that, ‛Though we have got Jhansi the victory comes to us but glory goes to Jhansi ki Rani.“

We have had great women in India. Like Nur Jahan was another great woman, we had [Chanbibi?], [Ahilyabai?] but they were all women, they didn’t have ego of men. When it comes to – one can work, work in the offices with men but they need not become men. I’ll tell you an example of My own. I had to build our house in Lucknow. I did it in a real woman style and I built a very good house, better than any man could build in a very, very cheap way. Like a man would go, first of all he’ll get an architect, go and measure everything, then he’ll try to fit everything into it beforehand. Then he will in his ego go to some expensive place, shop, get something expensive, be cheated by that. Then again in his ego he’ll go and get some very expensive labor and appoint somebody, he’ll be in charge of everything – in charge.

I did in a very different way. I had money, so went and found out who have the best people, who have the best bricks. The house was to be built by bricks. Then what else do you need? Just like a woman would cook her food, you see. You need also sand, all right? Then you need cement and you need iron bars, and labor. So I didn’t go the way men went round. I found out the man who was selling the best bricks. So he said, ‛I have no money because I have to put up those klins [editor’s note: first ‘klin’, later on pronounced ‘kiln’] and fill them up with the bricks and for that you require initial money.“ I said, ‛All right, I’ll buy one whole klin from you, whole one. How much will you take from Me?“ He said, ‛Five thousand rupees sufficient.“ But if he said, ‛If the klin goes off, or there’s something wrong with it, if it misfired, then it is your lookout.“ I said, ‛Doesn’t matter. You put one klin in My name.“ So I bought a complete klin from him, complete. Kiln is a thing where they put all the bricks, you see, and then cover it with mud and fire it from down below. Sometimes it could be that the whole thing can go into a waste, or crumble down. I said, ‛You do like that. Only 5,000.“ When it is nicely fired and all that it would cost you nothing short of 50,000 rupees.

Then I went to the river and I said, ‛How much for a one part?“ – as they call it, a big area of sand. They said, ‛At this time, when it is summertime it’s very little, but in wintertime it will be quite a lot.“ A man would go, he’ll say, ‛All right, now you need so much, bring it now. Then you will need more, you bring it now.“ But I didn’t do that, I said, ‛Summertime is a nice thing, cheap you are getting, why not buy the whole?“ So I bought the whole part, the whole area of that sand. (Shri Mataji laughing & laughter)

All right. Then I went for the ironmongers. I said, ‛Now what about iron?“ They said, ‛You have to order, but if you order in bulk then we’ll give you much cheaper. And cash down you have to pay so much.“ I said, ‛All right.“ I ordered it. So it was all ready, just like we do for cooking, you get everything ready made, ready there.

Then what we needed was wood. So they said, ‛Wood will come from Nepal.“ I said, ‛All right. What else?“ They said, ‛From any other forest it can come.“ So I went to a forest in the center of India called [Jabalpur?] and there I ordered. The whole wood was cut, newly cut, and in an auction I bought a lot of wood from there. And I got all that they had, plus I got the marble from there. This marble was never used before, anywhere. I said, ‛It’s very simple, I can use this marble for everything.“ So I got marble and wood together from that place.

Then the labor. Then I asked My friends if they knew any good workers, who are good at masonry work. They said, ‛Yes, this one is good, that one is good.“ So I called all of them. I said, ‛See, now you can stay with Me in this house and I’ll feed you very well and I’ll give you food and I’ll look after you very well.“ So they all settled down with their family (Laughter) and I used to cook for them. By cooking I won them over and they would do anything for Me. (Laughter) Absolutely. They were so kind to Me, they would produce new, new – technique that they knew – they would produce an effect of marble out of the cement. All kinds of art that they had they put there.

So such a big house with 20 bedrooms and five drawing rooms, dining rooms was created within one year’s time. Not only that, but the price of the house nobody can believe. Was one tenth of the one that the architect would have taken. But it was all written so well, everything done so well because I didn’t know how to write accounts, so what I used to do, every day I used to say, ‛Now, all right, today I take out so much money,“ then this much was spent. Like that I wrote every day and not one single rupee was missing in that. So nobody could prosecute Me, no problem otherwise all the officers who built their houses there had to go through lots of problems, their income was taxed, this thing – nothing, nothing happened. And I got such a huge house made in such a little money. And such a house that people said that, ‛Even Taj Mahal may fall down, this will not fall.“ (Laughter) Because I made a good foundation, everything, because I had bricks so cheap. The whole of that kiln I bought for no price at all and half of it I sold back because so much remaining. (Laughter) Then whatever I had bought the sand I brought it, sold half of it because I didn’t need it at – doubled the price so I got my sand free. (Laughter) The wood that I had brought from there I got it properly chiseled out and I had a little tank in which I put it so the whole thing became absolutely, what you call that – weatherproof. I got it out and half of it I used, half of it only, for hundred windows and sixty doors and the rest of it I sold. And even the chips were sold as burning for wood, you see burning wood, what do you call that? So you can imagine something was sold as timber and some for the huts. But I had to do cooking for them, I had to look after their comfort, I got them nice blankets and nice beds to sleep and this and that, so they were very happy.

That’s how a woman works out and everybody was amazed they could not find any faults with My – accounts they could not find faults with anything, and I told all My husband’s friends to keep five miles away from Me. (Laughter) Because he was working with the Prime Minister, people would have said that, ‛All right, She’s taking bribes,“ and things like that. Then there was, another problem was that – they would have come and told Me, ‛This not good, that not good.“ I kept them out because only they can argue, men can only argue. (Laughter) Women produce the results. No conferences, nothing, I said, ‛Nothing doing. Let Me do the job Myself.“ Very nicely in the company of all these people I built the house, a beautiful house which I think they have taken a film, and you might be able to see the house that I built there.

So when the woman, who is a Sahaja Yogini, must develop her – these special qualities because she is very [intitu?], woman is very [intitu?]. She always reaches the right conclusion in no time. If she’s a woman – but if she’s half-man and a little of a woman then I don’t know what sort of a thing she is.

So a woman should try to be a woman, she’s so powerful, she’s powerful like this Mother Earth who can bear every sort of thing and she can give the best that is with her. Extremely sacrificing, extremely giving, forbearing, loving, forgiving. When men develop the women’s quality then they become saints. But not the woman’s quality that they run after women. This kind of a nonsense is not there. They have to be [viras?] [Editors note: in one of Shri Mataji’s names, Shri Vira Mata: Vira means devotees who are competent], they have to be chivalrous people, they have to be brave. They have to be brave but with that they have to develop compassion, forgiveness.

But I think it is the other way round in Germany very much, and I find around also among Western Sahaja Yogis this is a very common affair going on – women develop horrible egos. In India women work. Everything they do. We have had great orators since long time, well known. But they don’t have ego. My mother was Honours, in those days when there were only two or three women who had done such a degree, but I never saw her with any ego in her. My own daughters, one of them has done architecture, and also interior decoration, she’s not now working because her husband is working all right. But she makes houses for others, she draws for others, she helps others freely. And she has such friends.

So what is the achievement of a woman? She has more people around her. Human power. She has more human beings around her. And what is the capacity of men? They have all the bills of the house to be paid, they have to pay for the insurance, (Laughter) the repairs of the car. Let them do the dirty jobs. (Shri Mataji laughing & laughter) Women receive all the love letters, from the children, from the husband, from everyone. They are loved. They are cared for. Now because they have become manly they don’t have all these advantages. Like formerly if you are going in a bus they would give a seat to a lady. Now nobody does that. Once – a lady was traveling, old lady, and – there was one young fellow sitting there. I said, ‛Why don’t you allow her to sit down?“ He said, ‛Why should I? She’s also wearing a pant, I’m also wearing a pant.“ She – this old lady was wearing trousers, so he said, ‛Why should I give her seat, she’s wearing a trouser, I’m wearing a trouser, what’s the difference?“ (Laughter)

So all that is our advantage and privilege we are losing by becoming men. And what do we gain? What do we gain? Actually, on the contrary, I think in modern days women are much more slaves of men than they were before. They get very upset. Say there’s a Sahaja Yogini. Now she’s caught up very badly and she has certain problems. First thing she’ll think about, ‛Oh God, now my husband will leave me, he’ll take away my children, where will I do?“ She’ll never think of Sahaja Yoga. But I met one extraordinary woman, I must say she was a real woman. She said, ‛Mother, because I’m a schizophrenic I want to get out of Sahaja Yoga. I’ll divorce my husband, I don’t want to see my children, Sahaja Yoga is much more important than me, than my husband and my children.“ ‛There’s a woman,“ I said. She said, ‛I am schizophrenic from childhood. I’ve discovered it now and it comes back now.“ But mostly women are worried about themselves, ‛Oh God, I’ll have to leave my husband,“ means what they were doing was to sponge on the husband. ‛I’ll have to leave my children.“ But what about leaving Sahaja Yoga? If you think Sahaja Yoga is the most important you’ll can get rid of your schizophrenia also. Why should God help you? We are just thinking like ordinary women, about yourself, only worried about yourself. Not worried about Sahaja Yoga.

Same with some men, but men are not so much frightened, because they think they can stand on their legs. And women should also know now they are Sahaja Yoginis that they are Sahaja Yoginis and Mother is going to look after them. But if you are worried about yourself only, your husband, my house, my children, then you are a gone case, you are no more a woman now. It’s not a sign of a good woman. A woman is that who loves all the children. Her loving capacity’s great, but if she becomes miserly, if she becomes small-minded then she’s not a woman.

I told you about My grand-daughters, I asked them, ‛What do you want to be?“ They’re very small. So they said, ‛We want to be a nurse or an air hostess.“ So I said, ‛Why? What is so great about these jobs?“ They said, ‛Grandmother, in these two jobs only you can feed people.“ There’s no other job in which you can really feed other. The joy of feeding others is greater than writing files in the office. Absolutely – I tell you. It’s a horrid job to write files in the office, see. (Shri Mataji laughing & laughter) It’s better to do some nice cooking, (Laughter) thinking so many are going to eat and enjoy it, than to do this dirty job. But women have lost their heads, they are not level-headed now. Become stupid.

Now in Germany you have to be very careful. In Austria you have to be very careful. Austrian women are great, but I would say German women – that you don’t try to become men. First of all the best way to stop it is not to talk too much. If you start talking like men then all the bhoots will enter into you and start talking like men only. And then you will see how the men are controlled – we Indian women know how to control our men much better than you do. Why we don’t have divorces? Why we don’t have problems? We quarrel – all right, doesn’t matter, but our men don’t run after another women. We don’t dress up, I mean, so much, we don’t go to hairdressers – we don’t have these beauty aids, all that. So develop your self-respect. You are the Shakti. You are the power. If you make your men cabbages what sort of children you’ll have? Cabbages only. Respect them. Make them men, enjoy their manliness. Then they’ll never give you up. There’s no competition between the two.

I find the main problem today in Germany is that the women have lost their senses. This is I feel absolutely about German women. Take to music, take to art. So much scope is there. Today, who is remembered? See in here, who is remembered? A musician – Mozart. Everyone remembers Mozart, even on a chocolate you’ll find a Mozart there. (Laughter) I don’t know, poor thing – did he ever eat any chocolates or not? (Laughter) Or they will remember, see here, they have Michelangelo or they’ll have Leonardo da Vinci, or they’ll have somebody like that. Nobody remembers who was the officer at that time, running with the file up and down. (Laughter)

So women have something that they can be of eternal value, that they should develop. The greatest thing is that woman can love, and love and love. But when she becomes selfish and self-centered, starts worrying about herself there’s no beauty in her love.

Today I took it up special this thing because today you are worshipping Me as Kartikeya. Kartikeya was the son of Parvati Uma. Who was just a mother of these two children, Ganesha and Kartikeya. And one day the parents Shankara and Parvati both of them said, ‛Out of you two, the one who goes round the Mother Earth first time will get a special prize.“ So Kartikeya was the manly power, absolutely, and he said, ‛All right, I’ll start on his own conveyance,“ which was a peacock. And Ganesha said to Himself, ‛Now look at Me, I’m a little boy, I am not like Him and My conveyance is a little mouse. How will I manage?“ But then He thought, ‛My Mother is higher than the whole universe. What is this Mother Earth?“ So this Kartikeya was out, going round the Mother Earth. Shri Ganesha went round His Mother three times. (Laughter) And He got the prize. Because of that motherly qualities for Him She’s the highest, even higher than Sadashiva. But surprisingly that is what Sadashiva likes. That you respect your mother – the motherhood in you. The womanhood in you. (Mother speaks in Hindi or Sanskrit and then translates). ‘Where the women are respectable and respected there the Gods reside.’

Women are very important. Of course I must blame the Western men also, the way they have ill-treated their women, have kept out of religion, have always put them down, I mean, India we had Muslims doing that but they are even very sophisticated aggressors and they did it very badly and they kept them all of them down. But doesn’t matter. Still, forgive them and try to be women – very powerful.

The powers of a woman are that of love, which are the powers of God. And that is to be used than to use other argumentative intellectualism, all nonsense. Don’t waste your energy with that. I would like, specially the Sahaja Yoginis of Germany, to become more and more ladylike. It doesn’t mean good cooking only, but in the attitude towards life. To think in a wider way that the whole Sahaja Yoga depends on our love capacity. We have to be extremely loving, extremely kind, looking after Sahaja Yogis, giving them all the joy that is possible.

Otherwise in this country they can become like vampires. So be very careful and for men also I would say if there are women of that kind you must respect them, you must give them all their privileges, look after them. They look after children but give them all the assistance, all the money that is needed by them. Do not ask for accounts and things, let them manage it. At the most you’ll become bankrupt, as it is you are. (Laughter)

But first see what is their attitude towards Sahaja Yoga is. I’ve seen in the families where the women are in charge of the purse always we get much more money for Sahaja Yoga work than from the houses where the men are in control. It’s very surprising. When men are in control they have to think of their car, they have to think of many big things, but when women are in control they know how to save money, as I have shown you how I have saved money. Men can never save. They can never save money. Only the women can save, but if they have a larger interest. Otherwise if they are self indulgent they’ll finish off all the money by going into the shop to buy a shirt for a man they’ll buy all saris for themselves. They can do like that. But if they have wider interests, if they have greater interest, they can use money so cleverly that they’ll have always money to spend for others. What do I do? What has – whatever My husband gives Me to run the house – it’s quite a lot I should say – but I stinge on things, I go to the main markets, get things from there, try to save money on that, save here, save on My clothes. I – first time I have given My sweaters for dry cleaning – in a good shop. That’s how a woman saves and then she spends for the general good. Because that is her real satisfaction. If we develop that kind of a balanced view about our married life, about our social life we’ll be ideal people in this world.

About school also, I have said it, very clearly. Now if you want to hear about it I would request – have you got that pamphlet with you? Wanted to read it. Uh? No, you don’t have. That’s just like men. (Laughter) They themselves said they would like to read it here, you see. If you ask men to do the cooking everything will be missing. So –

Gregoire: Shri Mataji, may I most respectfully ask You, is there any advantage at all in being a man? (Shri Mataji laughing & laughter)

Shri Mataji: Without the man woman cannot express herself. She cannot express, because she is the potential. He is the kinetic. It’s absolutely relative terminology. You cannot exist without a man, you cannot. Even if you, supposing, if you have all the fragrance in the Mother Earth unless and until you have the flowers how will you know there is fragrance in Mother Earth?

Men are most important otherwise what will they do? Their – all their energy will be all rotten. So, if women are the Mother Earth you are the flowers. Advantage what? You are the people who – everybody sees you. (Laughter)

Gregoire: Running around like Kartikeya. (Shri Mataji laughing & laughter)

Shri Mataji: What can we do? You are like that. (Laughter) You cannot sit at home. You cannot – even in the train, if you are going, you’ll find as soon as the train will stop all the men will get out of the train. They can’t sit there. (Laughter)

Like – I told My husband, ‛What is this all the time you are running out of the house? Why can’t you sit in the house for some time? You must sit.“ So he said: ‛No, in our side if any man – sits in the house he’s called as [kargoosna?], means ‘Who is all the time in the house, you see.’ And I said: ‛What do they call to man who always runs away from the house – [karpagna?]. Means the ‘runner away’, who runs away. (Laughter) There should be something in between. But that’s manly, it’s all right. But we can, with Sahaja Yoga, what we can do is to form a little balance between both the things. That is what Sahaja Yoga is, that it gives a balance. Then you start enjoying each other’s company so much that even in the house you enjoy, outside also enjoy. So you can be together inside the house, also outside. The interests are the same, because the interest becomes the same.

Like the flowers who fall on the Mother Earth make the Mother Earth fragrant and then we can say that Mother Earth is fragrant. As beautiful as that.

All right. So for education I’ve already given instructions and I’ve already talked about it that we are not to make a big ado out of this Maria Montessori and this and that. We are going to have Sahaja Yoga schools. All nonsense. Because I have seen those who are teaching in Maria Montessori style, the women have become horrible. Was amazed the amount of ego they have developed in themselves. So you become Sahaja Yoga teachers and it’s going to be a Sahaja Yoga school. In – Sydney or in Melbourne, we started the school in Melbourne very nicely and now they are going to have it in Sydney the same way. And openly it is a Sahaja Yoga school, there’s no fear about it. Openly it’s a Sahaja Yoga school, and then people have achieved so much out of it. We – why should we take any garb like that? We should go all out to say, ‛It’s a Sahaja Yoga school.“ So you, the teachers also become experts in Sahaja Yoga, so they have to be good Sahaja Yogis, Yoginis or Sahaja Yogis. They should not be egoistical, there should be no ego in them, they should not be catching, anybody who’s catching is not a good teacher for Sahaja Yoga. It’s not like – in a Maria Montessori school that in the night the teacher drinks, smokes and morning time she’s a Maria Montessori teacher. Here you have to be a Sahaja Yogini first and then only you can teach in a Sahaja Yoga school. You have to have that quality, that is very important, as it is important that we should get students who are Realized Souls or who can get Realization.

All right, so today’s puja is specially for Kartikeya. Kartikeya represents the great, we can say the captain or the leader of all the ganas, of all the – like a Commander-in-Chief. Ganesha is the King, but He is the Commander-in-Chief. And because German character is to be in command of everything we are going to have this puja where the men will be in command of their spirits and their manly qualities and women will be in command of their womanly qualities. To be in command is different from to be a master. Master owns it, a commander does not own it. He does not own it. That is also lost, possession is also lost, we just command it. And that is the state we have to come to now, from Ganesha state to the state of Kartikeya. The other way round.

Ganesha is nice, he’s the King, very nicely sitting down with all the powers, all right? In a sense He’s there, but Kartikeya’s the one who commands innocence, gives you a power of that commandment. He commands. After the Guru Puja it’s better that we should have the power to command others and that commanding spirit comes in the men through their talking, through their dynamism, through their personal achievements; for the women through their loving power, through their forbearance, through their gracious behavior, forgiveness, compassion. So let us develop that today, that we can command it, means it’s not that what we have, but in a position we are to command. I hope you understand what is Kartikeya.

May God bless you!

 

In this 108 names, if you have noticed, they have shown that Kartikeya is the innocence that is acting on the right hand side – in the Pingala. And that is also – it is very much related to Prana. It gives you Prana. Prana is the vital breath that we take – breathe in and breathe out. So it is related to the right side. Then also it is related to eternity – [Anantari?]. Anantar is the snake – the Shesha. Which is the brother of Vishnu. So it is He who is represented here as Kartikeya. He is called as Anantar. So he is the fire. He is the one who ignites within you the capacity to consume, the force – also the capacity to command the people and also the capacity to be a person full of brilliance. You see, an innocent person could be very brilliant. All these capacities are expressed in Kartikeya’s Swarupa – in His state. Today, by worshipping Kartikeya we have to know that Kartikeya is now awakened within us. And with that capacity we have to fight.

Ultimately He is the Nishkalanka. He is the one who’s in the final. So from Ganesha to Christ to Nishkalanka. These are the three stages into which the innocence has gone. From Ganesha to Kartikeya and now to Christ. And from Christ to Nishkalanka. In the form of Nishkalanka He is innocent, so there is no Kalanka – there is no spot on Him, nothing. He is absolutely clean, immaculate. Plus He is fiery. Plus He has all the qualities of Ekadasha Rudra. Means the eleven qualities or the forces of Shiva, which can kill. So He has a capacity to kill and destroy that is evil and to give blessings and courage to His followers.

This is the last incarnation, which is called as Kalaki, in normal words you call it Kalaki, is actually Nishkalanka. In the white horse. So it is the Kartikeya who sits on the white horse. So how innocence grows within you now is up to the point of Kartikeya. This has been today done on this land, Deutschland as you call it, where Kartikeya is to be born within you, is to be awakened in you.

May God bless you!

 
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